San Francisco - Cindy Sheehan, the bereaved mother whose anguished protests pioneered the US anti-war movement, is quitting her public role, saying that the US was becoming a “fascist corporate wasteland” facilitated by a two-party system in which both parties were equally to blame.
Sheehan announced the move in a letter posted on her weblog. On Tuesday she left the protest camp she purchased outside President George W Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Texas, and headed home to California to be with her family.
“I am going to go home and be a mother to my surviving children and try to regain some of what I have lost,” she wrote.
The move came just days after the Democrats backed down from a war-funding bill that would have placed a timeline on US withdrawal from Iraq. The move was widely seen as capitulation to Bush and sparked widespread anger in the anti-war movement.
“I was the darling of the so-called left as long as I limited my protests to George Bush and the Republican Party,” Sheehan wrote. “When I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode. I guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of ‘right or left’, but ‘right and wrong’.”
Sheehan also blasted the peace movement for its petty infighting, and argued that the country as a whole appeared unready to take the steps needed for peace.
Sheehan started protesting the war in June 2004, following a meeting with Bush three months after her son Casey died. As a bereaved mother, her criticism garnered worldwide attention and became a focal point as discontent with the war grew.
But in her emotional resignation letter, Sheehan said the toll of the protest had overwhelmed her personally, politically and financially, draining all her savings, destroying her 29-year marriage and leaving her other children without a mother close by.
“Casey did indeed die for nothing … killed by his own country which is beholden to and run by a war machine that even controls what we think. Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months.
“I have invested everything I have into trying to bring peace with justice to a country that wants neither,” she wrote. “Good-bye America … you are not the country that I love and I finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I can’t make you be that country unless you want it. It’s up to you now.”
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Well, she’s right, for the most part.
Comment by Jeff — May 29, 2007 @ 11:58 am
’bout time she decided to go home and be a mother to her surviving children…
Comment by Carrie — May 29, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
These types of people make me sick. She shoul move to China, protest there, and she’ll be killed so we don’t have to see her again. Her son was killed by radical militants, NOT the United States.
Comment by Sean — May 29, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Welcome to reality and the human condition. No utopia for you!
Comment by Daniel — May 29, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
All I can wish for Cindy Sheehan is that she can find the peace and meaning that is so hard to come by for parents of dead children. To read her saying, “Casey did die for nothing,” drives home the enormity of her loss and reminds us that, after all, she is a grieving mother first and foremost.
Her criticism about support for her cause is apt - as soon as she expanded the scope of her criticism from the Republicans to include the system in general then all of a sudden she wasn’t the left’s darling any more. It points to the bigger issue of partisan politics in the U.S. and how entrenched people are in their positions.
Comment by Maria E. Andreu — May 29, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
This woman needs help with her emotional problems! Perhaps she should get the help her buddy Fidel gives to the disidents in Cuba.
Comment by John — May 29, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
Sheehan is a kook who has no one but herself to blame for her failed marriage and the self-imposed neglect of her other children. If she wants to say goodbye to America, let’s put her on a plane with Sean Penn and they can share their vision of America with Iran or North Korea. Regardless of what happened in the past, we are at war and we need to win. Either get to fightin’ or get away.
Comment by john — May 29, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
I can feel this lady’s pain and greif. We were sold out by the people we put into office, and no one seems to care ! One man shouldn’t have enought power to stop what the whole nation wants.This is the time to end the two party system !!!
Comment by Earl — May 29, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
It’s about time that she realize that what she needed to do was be with her family and not trying to change the president mind which is already made up. and she just lost more love ones instead of gaining more.
Comment by Eddie — May 29, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
She is 100% correct. Dead on.
Comment by Tim Werther — May 29, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
Bye!
Comment by Chris — May 29, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
I feel sorry for Sheehan. She has learned the bitter truth that people learned in the sixties. Our government is controlled by the military complex. People make money off wars while young men (and now women) die.
Comment by john bowers — May 29, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
While I am anti-war in Iraq, I have to say this poor lady needs help. It has always been with her: if you don’t totally agree with me, you are totally wrong and without values. After 9/11, there are a lot of grays out there and people realize it. It is militant terrorists under the Islam banner against everyone else–including their own people. What I hate to see more than anything is what this is doing to the Iraqi people. After Saddam, they don’t deserve it.
Comment by M L Parker — May 29, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Cindy has it right! IF the number of the military killed & maimed even came close to that in Veitnam there would be an uproar in this country. There aren’t enough people that give a damn about this war. No one of note has had to be put in harms way. In that case the wealthy would be put at risk. That would be a different story. Good luck Cindy.
Comment by William Gleason — May 29, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Good riddance - she should actually LEAVE the country if she feels that way - if any of you think that you can have right without wrong, peace without war, or happiness without suffering - you have a reality check coming - in this life or the next. These terms define each other . . .
Comment by T — May 29, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Good riddance!!
Comment by Joe Maroney — May 29, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Maybe instead of trying to stop the war, Sheehan should have run for a political office at the national level. She could have done much more. I would have voted for her. Sheehan is correct. America is not America any more. It’s a third world country with nuclear capabilities.
Comment by J.A. Clark — May 29, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
I think she’s finally shinned a light on what is motivating the left and the democratic party.
Comment by Bill — May 29, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Perhaps this is terribly cynical and unkind, but a friend commented that this country was made up of peasants and social rejects from europe. Now they (we), bred for millenia to be both subservient and acquisitive, have tremendous power to consume natural resources and exert our collective appetite upon the rest of the world. We have seen the enemy, and he is us.
Comment by chris — May 29, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Goodness. BOTH Republicans AND Democrats at fault?! Imagine that. Then try to imagine our country run as it was founded; as a representative republic, ruled by LAW. In particular, by the supreme law of the land… the Constitution. You sheep remember that document , don’t you?
He does: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
Comment by Jeff — May 29, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Your son did not die for nothing he died protecting this country .Thank god for all the men and women over there fighting for this wonderful country…
Comment by mike — May 29, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Start the draft and watch the peace movement take off. She is right the general population is not concerned enough to do any thing but watch TV and go to work, one would think that double gas prices would do something. To all of you couch creatures buy your gas from small independents not the majors and that will do something, without you having to spend to much energy.
Comment by duke mcclain — May 29, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
If Cindy Sheehan and all you other that followed her think the US has becoming “fascist corporate wasteland”, Then get out uf the US. You want to live in a FREE country but you don’t want us to defend our country. My guess is that most of you are getting free hand outs from the goverment and not doing a thing to protect this GREAT COUNTRY of ours.
Comment by Skyles — May 29, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
Anti WAR peace-nik Thinks we need to stay now.I was one of the very first anti-war protesters this time around. I started protesting and speaking out against the Iraq invasion before it happened. I have been pilloried, even lost a job for my views but I think we need to stay in Iraq now unless we want to increase the destabilization of area and hand the country to the extremists. However, we should really change our thrust to more of an humanitarian role if we do stay so we can truly show the Iraqi peoples some of the benefits of a true democratic policy. Not just the brutality we are showing them now.
We are repeating the same mistakes now that we did in Vietnam.
Comment by Kokopelau — May 29, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
When well we become Americans first and foremost then affiliate with a political party second?
Comment by David Sanders — May 29, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
Sheehan suffered a great loss and unfortunately that fed her uncompromising view of the war in terms that did not allow her to see beyond her immediate tragedy. Few individuals are “for” war, but the question rests on determining if there was a perceived “value added” when the war started. The country’s safety is a president’s over-riding responsibility. If Sheehan felt that politics was a greater motivation then she had a valid point. Problem is that politics seems to infect the Democratic party equally and thus the dilemma of identifying an honest broker whose motivations are untarnished. The realization must have added to her pain.
Comment by Bud — May 29, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
It’s about time she figured out she was nothing but a pawn for the anti-war machine.
Comment by G — May 29, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
“fascist corporate wasteland”
Pretty disconcerting about the U.S. ….also fairly accurate. Still the GOP is clearly the greater EVIL. In the past, both parties were bought by corporatocracy, now the GOP are the corporatocracy and, if you don’t like it, you are a terrorist. A good portion of the adminstration should be brought up on charges of treason.
Comment by Jake — May 29, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
SHE GETS ONE LAST SLAP BEFORE NOTHINGNESS.
Casey did indeed die for nothing … killed by his own country which is beholden to and run by a war machine that even controls what we think. Casey died for a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months.
Comment by Miquel Ramos — May 29, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
She is about America being more concerned with the next American idol than about the young men and women being killed in Iraq. I believe she is also right about both parties, they care more about their own political careers than the American people or those serving in the armed forces. Sad to say I listened to Lee Greenwoods song “God Bless the USA” yesterday and was not moved by its patriotic message for what I felt was shame, I am ashamed of this country because of George W. Bush and his administration and now in congress itself for cowaring before him. Why should I feel shame for this country when it’s our elected representatives who should be hanging their collective heads in shame. Too bad they can’t summon up just a little of the courage our military has displayed and impeach George W. Bush in order to restore honor upon this nation.
Comment by Michael Bennett — May 29, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
I agree with Cindy Sheehan. We have behaved as though we care more about the next American Idol or where Paris Hilton will be than how many Americans die in Iraq or who we elect next to be President. We really need to check ourselves when we as a country elect George Bush an average student when in school and clearly a substance abuser in his past rather than Al Gore an obiviously brilliant man. Then as if we all missed the first 4 years of George as President we again elected him over John Kerry a man with war experience and a brain.
We as a country are clearly on a slow learning curve. It is a good thing our forefathers protected us with a 2 term limit as President.
Cindy you have been great with your attempts to enlighten the population. Maybe by the next election in 2008 the slow learners will catch up……Well we can hope.
Comment by Jodi — May 29, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
She will not
be missed.
Comment by Dee — May 29, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
Cindy Sheehan is the poster child for the people whos country has been sold out to the highest bidder. The US is merely a shell of the great country it used to be. We are run by large multi-national conglomerates that have very little if any allegance to this country who where put in place by pandering politicians in Washington. As Thomas Jefferson so prophetically said: Every generation needs a new revolution. If ever that statement held true it is now.
By a disgruntled American Citizen who loves his country not his government.
Comment by Ron — May 29, 2007 @ 12:25 pm
Protests, votes, speeches–nothing but meaningless theater. If you want results, hit them where it hurts. Tax revenue is what makes it all run. Use your W-4 tax withholding statement to deny them these funds. Everyone has to declare, quite legally, ten personal tax exemptions. If enough people commit to this they won’t be able to fund their own paychecks, never mind an ill-conceived war.
Comment by Ed — May 29, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
Yes. she is absolutely right!
Comment by Radhakrishnan — May 29, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Finally someone with enough courage to speak the truth…
Comment by Truth — May 29, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
i feel the same as her.
Comment by ml johnstone — May 29, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
She was running for office; she quit when the Dems made no offer.
Comment by Walt — May 29, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
It is rare to have a person like Cindy. Someone with the courage to stand up against those in power. I am guilty of merely ranting and never trying to solve problems. I like to think that my daily chores do not allow me to fix the bad things. Unfortunately, I am wrong. The scariest thing is that I am not alone. The US as whole would rather have someone such as Cindy fight their battles. What has happened to our country? This problem is the same as always going out for dinner, having someone else wash our cars, etc… We never want to get our hands dirty. Finally we rely so much on others that true leaders will no longer exist.
Comment by Nick — May 29, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
She is wrong on all parts.
Comment by Robert Mueller — May 29, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
I am glad the Democrats took Congress, but they have no leadership. Sen. Harry Reid’s excuses are incredible lame. He effectively said President Bush didn’t accept their proposal, so they were forced to quit. Disgusting.
Comment by Clinton — May 29, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Please remember that freedom is not free and sometimes death is the price.
Comment by Robert Mueller — May 29, 2007 @ 12:34 pm
Yeah, felt she got used once her outcry went national, and it all got quickly out of hand. I’m sorry to say most of what she said is true.
Comment by Ben — May 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Sheehan is right to be disappointed and disgusted with the Democrats. I am so perturbed by their spineless cave-in that I am not sure what I am going to do at election time. I have always been a proud liberal, but I’m not sure what that means anymore. It is time to take back our country! EVERYONE opposed to this war needs to flood their legislators’ mailboxes, telephones, and emails with angry complaints.
Comment by Kay Brathol-Hostvet (please leave off last name) — May 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
…I don’t know about her personal sacrifices… But she is right overall.
Comment by T Murray — May 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Yes, she’s right, and she’s paid a high cost for it. But I don’t know why it would or should cost anyone her financial security, marriage, family, and emotional health to know that. Just read a few newspapers every week and you’ll know that we’ve been in trouble for a long time–the war is only recent proof.
Comment by Betsy — May 29, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
Boo-hoo, once I dropped out of the press I realized my life pretty much sucks! I’m such a loser…doesn’t anybody love me?
Comment by Rico — May 29, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Cindy is the voice of truth! Her statement needs to be addressed by every candidate for high office in the US, and failure to address her views is absolute agreement that she is right!
Comment by Marshall — May 29, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
Thank you Cindy for quitting. You should have quit sooner. You were trying to roll a boulder up a hill and only made the US look bad. You used your power to protest and freedom of speech to divide the country more than the democrat party has done or will do.
Goodbye. Too bad you didn’t realize that it would take it’s toll on your finances and family. Looks like Chavez and Belafonte could have kicked in a couple bucks because you made them look like Gods and Bush look like a war criminal.
Goodbye. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Comment by Mark — May 29, 2007 @ 12:38 pm
This woman is a disgrace. Whether the war was just or no, her son signed up for the military and he knew there was a possibility of dying and so did she. It’s just outright wrong to think you can be in the military and that you won’t have the possiblity of dying in combat or in any part of a war.
Yes, the party system is awful and it sucks that her son got killed, but it’s simply factual that there was NO draft and her son was NOT forced to join.
Comment by Brie — May 29, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Cindy, you can take your place besides the true great Americans of this country’s once justly glorified past. As Benjamin Franklin once said to a woman who stopped him on the steps of Liberty Hall with the question, “What have you done for our country?!”, he replied, “Madam, we’ve given you a Republic, if you can keep it.”
The sad fact of the matter is that Americans today have NO IDEA what keeping a Republic is all about, and yet it’s presumed complexity is nothing of the sort; it’s about a People’s government by the People, for the People.
That’s what Franklin meant.
Unfortunately, the People are no longer anywhere to be found.
God be with you,
Philip
Comment by Philip — May 29, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
Cindy speaks the truth, and her statement needs to be addressed by every candidate for high office in the US. Failure by any candidate to address Cindy’s comment is simply confirmation that her statement is absolutely correct!
Comment by Marshall — May 29, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
Cindy Sheehan should realize that her protesting was carried by the media in order to hurt the Bush Administration. She has been free to protest and is now free to leave this country she refers to as becoming a “fascist corporate wasteland.” But she won’t leave, because she is as hypocritical as all of the Bush Administration haters on the extreme left.
Comment by James McGrain — May 29, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
Cindy, you now know what this entire deal is all about! There is no point crusading anymore to rescue a society that just become one gigantic shopping mall, and has a national security force (military) to insure that no one, absolutely no one interferes with its quest tward disgusting, belching,farting greed. Hopefully you can put your life back together somewhere ,and let the bumper sticker patriots sort things out.
Comment by paul — May 29, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
Yet another sign that things are going to have to get even worse before people wake up, galvanize and change what’s broken with our country… in order for things to get better. Apathy and mass hypnosis are the true enemies of the people if only they realized this (the mother of all catch 22’s!). It’s difficult to be angry with your fellow countrymen and women when you know that you, too, were once asleep. I find myself wondering just how BAD it’s going to have to wake the sleeping populous… or if it’s even possible!
Comment by GG — May 29, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Whether you are right or left, it is a critical observation that things will not move in an optimal direction until people become more concerned about power/politics than television entertainment.
If the current situation of war and international concern is not sufficient stimulation, it is difficult to imagine a scenario in the next few hundred years that would instigate conscientious public involvement.
Regardless of whether you are “for” or “against” the current administration, the country is a playground for any faction with the means and desire to manipulate it—it’s simply a question of what group will be next, and what will be the nature of their collective conscience, upon which we will all blindly rely. No one is minding the store…
Comment by John Geisen-Kisch — May 29, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Cindy Sheehan is a stand-up person with more guts, drive, and determination than anyone who posts here, including me. She had the courage to put up a fight and to care. The political situation in the US is bad and getting worse by the day. George Bush has used and abused the American public and military to further the goals of his political cartel. We need many, many more people like Cindy to stop the bleeding and put the US back on track as a world leader.
Comment by Mike — May 29, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
For all you Einsteins who obviously don’t know the definition of FASCISM:
Mussolini himself defined it as the marriage of government with corporate interests.
So while our soldiers are having their laundry cleaned by civil contractors in Iraq who are charging ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER LAUNDRY BAG (over which our soldiers are being forced into silence), please keep that in mind before you scoff at how “absurd” the notion may be that it could in any way apply to us .
What’s absurd is assuming that it doesn’t.
Both parties are OWNED by the Federal Reserve Bank anyway, which is as much a part of the government as is Federal Express. It is a PRIVATE, FOR PROFIT corporation owned by a cabal of 12 member banks for the benefit of themselves and their shareholders.
“If the American People ever allow private banks to control the issue of the money, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will rise up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” -Thomas Jefferson
Rise and shine!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
This man stands to change all that:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q
Comment by Philip — May 29, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
“Please remember that freedom is not free and sometimes death is the price.”
Robert, please….this is not about bland pseudo-patriotic platitudes. It is about an deceptively created war on an ever shifting enemy (remember WMDs, Osama, the Taliban?) Now it is a illegal war on an idea and propaganda methodology, something that can never been “won”, and is only going to bankrupt this country…or at leat the middle class. Check out the Republican vs. Democrat military service records. You’ll note the Dems have many more people that have served while the Republicans have done very little for this country….except sacrifice others for money.
Comment by Jake — May 29, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
What a genius! She just now figured that out?
If the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist, then the greatest trick the American government ever pulled was convincing everybody there is a 2 party system.
Comment by Chris from Chicago — May 29, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
RON PAUL 2008. Look him up everyone and watch his videos on YouTube.
Comment by erhan — May 29, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
Cindy Sheehan is an American heroine. We are being led now by neo-Fascists and it is very dangerous for Americans to keep sticking their heads in the muck of denial. The population of America is being denied benefits that the money for the Iraq war is being used for. American is dumb now.
Comment by Susanna Hahn — May 29, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Cindy Sheehan spoke for everyone who was outraged by the invasion (I can’t call this a war), and everything she said and did was spot on. Reading these comments about her, it is no wonder Bush can get away with claiming to have a direct line to god, admitting that there were no WMD’s, and asking for more troops. Doubtless some of these commentors miss Falwell……….
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Maybe she should have but her efforts and grief into getting better equipment for our soldiers, rather than beating a dead horse. One man is not responsible for this war, one political party is not more responsible for this war. There are things we can change, opinions we can voice and actions we can take. But Sheehan’s decision not to be mother first to her surviving children just proves an all to obvious point, everyone wants their 15 minutes. She should be ashamed of herself for only being a good mother to her deceased son. It is unfortunate that all he will be remembered for is that his mother is a bit off of her emotional rocker. He died for a country he chose to serve. I for one will remember him and all the other men and women who have chosen to serve and will never spend another 4th of July at home. My heart aches each day for the brave ones who fight and sleep in the middle of the sand storms. My husband is one of them, and I promise you, that if he doesn’t come home to hug me, I will remember him and pass on his love for country and the idea of freedom.
Comment by Jodie — May 29, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
I am sick and tired of all the flag waving foolishness talk about “defending” our country. We defended our country in WWII. We went over there and DESTROYED the enemy. Our people in Iraq can’t even eat a pork chop for fear of offending someone. We are not defending the USA, only meddling in affairs that are none of our business. Let the Iraqi people fight it out among themselves and if they make a move toward the US then deal with them as we did Dresden in the 40’s.
Comment by Paul — May 29, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Corporate wasteland is so true! We are at war because war is good business, an economic stimulator. George Bush should be tried for war crimes!
Comment by Mark — May 29, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
“Regardless of what happened in the past, we are at war and we need to win.” Win what??? The hearts and minds of the Iraqis? We went to war because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. They don’t have them now. Win against terrorists that weren’t there until we started the war? I know, we could NUKE them. Good grief. Thanks Cindy. I’m sorry for your loss. Some of us are questioning our government because of you.
Comment by Bruce — May 29, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
She obviously has not given herself time to grieve properly, or she would be able to realize when a Military man/woman makes a commitment to service it is a choice. They know what there sacrifice is, and accept it. Therefore it is not “for nothing”, it is what they believe in!
Comment by Denise — May 29, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
I am amazed at how many people said she should leave the country. As if only them and those who share their views have the right to stay. The English could have said the same thing to Washington. It is frightening that so many believe no American has the right to criticize the way the country is run.
Comment by Alice — May 29, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
I’m shocked although not surprised seeing how many people in US still don’t get it that so called american imposed “liberation” is viewed in Iraq as much worse evil than Sadam. How can you say that “we have to win” or “we have to protect our (US) freedom”? How dumb you have to be to think that attacking Iraq was meant to protect our freedom?
Comment by Jeff — May 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
War is using controlled brutality to achieve a political purpose. The only moral way to fight a war is to win it as soon as possible by whatever means. Fighting half way ensures that both sides will have more casualties. I’ve heard anti-war politicians complain that prisoners from Iraq don’t get air conditioned cells at Guantanamo, - ridiculus. To end the war, first decide to win it.
Comment by Wildandcrazy — May 29, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Cindy, I can’t imagine your grief and I think a terrible, injustice was done by this and the British government to the men and women in uniform, their families and the rest of America and the world. This is a horrendous, lie of a war, that has also claimed the lives on innocent Iraqis .The government is not for the people as it should and was intended to be. All this was for money and power and control. Once the people realise the IRS is owned my private banks, then maybe we’ll see some change. All I can do is hope and pray and have my thoughts with Cindy and the other parents, wives, girlfriends, husbands, friends, children, boyfriends and those who have lost their loved ones to this immoral, illegal, tragic war.
Comment by Rebekah — May 29, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
In world war 2 a conscript army in 4 years rolled back Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan. No bullet proof vests, K.P. all the time, no rotations, rationing at home, “A” gasoline stickers, war bonds and victory gardens. See any of that nowadays? What did we lack:a Monarch in the White House and a Rasputin in the D.O.J.
Comment by john — May 29, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
She really needs to concentrate on her exisiting kids AND she needs to get a proper headstone placed on Casey’s grave. If you haven’t seend it, you should. For a woman to make such a large deal about the death of her son, you should see the wooden cross she has on his grave. Not even a stone….jeesh….this woman needs serious help and repoubs knew it from the git go, and the dems just figured it out….
Comment by FLTRider — May 29, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Sheenan is 100% right about the war in Iraq. We did not need to go to war in the first place because Saddam Hussein was not connected with Al Queda and he did not have WMDs. While Saddam Hussein was an evil man, Iraq did not suffer from civil war, and American soldiers were not dying for a cause that nobody believes in. I was also disappointed by the compromise made by the Democrats with the Republicans on the war spending bill, but I believe that they had no other option. Maybe, once the current president, whose relentless support for a war that was lost long ago, and a Democrat becomes President, this stupid, wasteful war will finally end.
Comment by Eryn — May 29, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
I think it is just utterly astonishing how few of the ‘anti’ posters here actually get the fundamental point of the objection to the war in Iraq. The raison d’etre was the threat of weapons of mass destruction. That was of course incorrect and false and negligent on the part of the administration and intelligence services.
If there had been an understanding that there were no WOMD the invasion would have have been illegal.
Now that there is positively asserted to be no WOMD, the invasion is shown to have been wrong after the fact. The suggestion that it was to protect against ‘terrorists’ or ‘anti-americans’ is not legimate - you need to understand they exist globally in more than 20 countries.
During Korea and Vietnam there were tens of thousands perhaps millions like you who posted that it was ‘anti-american’ and disloyal to do anything other than support the wars. History shows what total BS that was. Use your intellect and see this for what it, sadly, is precisely just once again. It is an incredible irony that you we can have a society with incredible outrage about the senseless loss of life in Vietnam and all these Alamo-idiots bigging up Iraq.
Comment by Gareth — May 29, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Sheenan is 100% right about the war in Iraq. We did not need to go to war in the first place because Saddam Hussein was not connected with Al Queda and he did not have WMDs. While Saddam Hussein was an evil man, Iraq did not suffer from civil war, and American soldiers were not dying for a cause that nobody believes in. I was also disappointed by the compromise made by the Democrats with the Republicans on the war spending bill, but I believe that they had no other option. Maybe, once the current president, whose relentless support for a war that was lost long ago is driving the country apart, has left office for good, this stupid, wasteful war will finally end.
Comment by Eryn — May 29, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
“When I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode.”
Cool. So there was a time when she didnt hold the Dems up to the same standards as Republicans? Hmm, imagine that. Instead of only pointing the finger, try coming up with solutions.
GTFO Sheehan.
Comment by Sean — May 29, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
Cindy, please take your bitterness toward this beautiful and wonderful country we live in to China. Set up a protest camp over there and see how long you would last. I would hope not long.
Comment by William G.Burrell — May 29, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
I am so glad to see her go! Freedom is paid for in blood, and that is not a platitude. I do not relish war, but since 9/11, Bush has kept the threat overseas, and away from our hom turf. During the 8 horrible Clinton years, there were so many successful terrorist attacks on our soil. Since 9/11, there have been ZERO. Way to go Bush! And thnak you to the military for protecting us. These are facts which cannot be disputed. Sheehan, you are a horribly confused woman, and from what she herself says, a poor mother. I feel bad for her children. This is not a perfect country, but it is our country, and it is better than any other county out there. The people we are fighting have managed to turn the press against us. So be it. We must persevere. It is a hard road, a lonely road, but it is the RIGHT road. Our enemies wish to destroy our culture and rid us from this planet. We must defend our right to exist. That cannot be acheived by talking. Bye bye Sheehan. This is reality. Stop looking for a conspiracy. If you have ever been alone in a dark alley and been mugged by several people, afraid for your very life, with no hope of help from the police, then you udnerstand that what this country is doing must be done.
Comment by Andrew — May 29, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Of course Ms. Sheehan is right. I’m sorry she’s quitting, but there’s no winning. This war is all about oil property for Bush and equipment sales for Haliburton (AKA Cheney). Money virtually always wins over truth, decency, and honor. That’s the real American way.
Comment by EW — May 29, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
America, home of the ignorant, led by the stupid. Americans ARE ignorant as a people. Look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls! Bush & Co. are stupid. They have failed the country and the people therein. The end of America began the day the Constitution was ratified. Just as we begin to die at birth, so goes the country which enjoys its periods of brilliance, only to fade as history forges on. Perhaps it would be more wise to take hold and plan for the future while coping with today.
Comment by T.P. O'Tyrrell — May 29, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
What is the saddest part of Ms. Sheehan’s departure is her statement about her son dying for no purpose. However history will judge the validity of the Iraq War, no one should second guess the motivations, valor, courage and purpose of the individual men and women who volunteer to serve their country. We confused the two after the Vietnam War and wrongly shamed thousands of service men and women. I thought we had grown up as a society and were able to delineate the difference after those painful lessons. Not only has Cindy not learned that lesson, she chose to single-handedly shame her own fallen son with non-purpose. I may not support the war and I may have never met her son, but I hold more respect for his sense of purpose in his ultimate sacrifice than his own mother does. That one statement reflects a bad sense of judgement and morality, and it seriously destroys the credibility of HER purpose over the past few years camped in front of Bush’s ranch. It’s too bad she chose this way to go.
Comment by Steve — May 29, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Yesterday’s Parade
That was yesterday’s parade.
When the trumpets filled the barren fields
Of jaded glories.
When the drums pounded the tombstones
Into the thirsty earth.
When the cannons fell like candle sticks
From the steaming murderous mold.
That was yesterday’s parade.
When the bloody banner
Painted the ignorant sky.
And cracked like a hot whip
In the innocent wind.
That was yesterday’s parade.
When black boots fell upon our smooth rolling sphere
Like the clapping hands of little children,
Lost in a rhythm of careless cadence,
Lost in a battle of void protracted financial purpose.
That was yesterday’s parade.
When the soldiers’ sleeping bedroom
Awakens never again
To a breakfast of swollen youthful vibrant dreams,
To a morning of expanding horizons.
That was yesterday’s parade.
Today the empty streets scream the trumpet deaf!
Today the hollow silence beats the drum bare
Of its broken brittle skin.
Today, there will be no thrill in the trill of the fife.
Today, I will take no more a human life!
That was yesterday’s parade.
© David L. Nelson 2006
Comment by Viet Vet #120,044 — May 29, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Cindy Sheehan excersized her right to free speech and the right to dissent- also known as- the right to criticize the government. Censorship of any view point is a grave grave error. We should all respect her for utilizing her constitutional right. And any attempt to strengthen our constitutional rights should be highly regaurded in a time when those rights are being stripped from us.
Comment by Lovejoy — May 29, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
I can see there is no way either of the war camps is going to get 100% of what they want. The issue therefore seems to be how do we minimize future loss? In my view, war cannot always be won by sheer force. Perhaps talking to Iran is a step into the right direction.
Comment by Steve — May 29, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Cindy Sheehan was another empty suited media creation, devised of the tragedy of her son’s death and exploited by Big (Business)Media, until they had expended her usefulness. It has been the lack of attention to her shallow message that drove her from the “movement” as quickly as the Big Media “movement” embraced her.
Comment by Tom Diknhary — May 29, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
As a former Vietvet USMC 1968 in country..non draftee..I saw a lot of anti-war rallies in my lifetime..Cindy’s is no exception..she has the right to protest..the conflict in Iraq..not a war is lost..Vietnam was a war..army against army..but also had gorilla warfare which took its toll on us…
the enemy in Iraq has control when and where he wants to attack us..you also have other forces fighting among each other..we are in his backyard and as long as they control the attacks we can’t beat them..gorilla warfare is very hard to beat..we learned this in Nam a generation ago ..so this generation will learn the hard way.
Son of a marine friend of mine
also a marine just returned back from Iraq. He told me
an insurgent sniper has been
killing americans and Iraqi’s
in Bagdad for nearly two years
..and they can’t catch him.
This is what our troops are facing..
The fact that all our troops
in Iraq made a choice to signup for military service
makes it hard for them to
serve several tours. In Nam
we served a year then rotated
back home.
They really have it tough.
What GW Bush has done by invading Iraq is given the insurgents real time training on how to defeat us at the expense of our outstanding
american men and women lives. The muslim insurgents will use this expercience as their training tool and it doesn’t surprise me if these types of attacks
will flow over to other parts around the middle east once we deploy Iraq.
That whole place is a mess and we don’t have anyone in command that knows how to fix it.
Peace.
Comment by Bob — May 29, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
The U.S. Army developed shells made of plastics in order to make their x-ray detection and fragment removal more difficult for surgeons. In the medias this lady was shown together in an advertisement film against the Britt’s war participation[Downing Street
Memorandum] and their transport of napalm bombs in the Lebanon war over Scottish intermediate airports stops and Shannon-tarmac for
jewish-U.S.-american gangsters
and criminals[ = U.S. Army ].
Comment by www.mathematics.mil — May 29, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
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You don’t like it? Get the hell out of here. Ive been to many countries and we are by far the best one ive been in. I do believe it’s sad that more people care about American Idol than about the state of our country. By the way, American Idol is fake too. Look into it and you will find out!!!
Comment by Jeff — May 29, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
This woman deserves respect for fighting for what she believes in. It’s the American way. When you post a disagreement with her on an open forum you are also exercising your free speech as she did. Try not to wrap yourself in the flag.
Comment by Bill Murphy — May 29, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Anyone who thinks she should leave because she doesn’t agree with this war or our president has obviously forgot that we can disagree with our leaders and still love our country. And I don’t recall her saying that China was better to you folks that keep saying ‘move to China’.
For those that think there is no draft… there is a form of a draft if you can’t afford college and want to go to school.
For those that think Bush has ‘fought them there instead of over here’, please remember that there is not one of them, there are thousands, and according to our own government reports they are stronger now then they were when we started, mainly fuled by the hatred created by the war in Iraq.
For those that think Cindy divided the country and is a kook (you know the 28% that still support Bush) I think Bush already has that covered for us.
For those that call her a pawn for the anti-war machine, are you a pawn for the war machine?
I didn’t care much for Clinton but, really, ‘8 horrible Clinton years with so many successful terrorist attacks’? Really, how does being in Iraq (which had NOTHING to do with 9/11) help us? Now we have lost half of the bill of rights and you say ‘Way to go!’.
We all understand that you need to fight for freedoms sometime, this was just the wrong place and time.
If this is truly a fight for our survival as Bush states, why is there no draft? Why are we still having trouble getting armor to our troops? And why aren’t you that are for the war not over in Iraq fighting?
I support America and the Troops, not Bush and his war.
The world is nuanced, not black and white, too bad our leaders are not.
Comment by Brad — May 29, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
It’s all George Bush’s fault. It all had to do with oil and nothing to do with weapons of mass distruction, now the prices of gas is so high it is outragious. Former President Carter was right on when he said “The Bush administration is the worst administration in American History.
Comment by Mark — May 29, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
I hope the people that are mad at democrats don’t take it out on them at the polls. Because look what our alternatives are I rather have a democrat in there than a republican. They would have the war going for years, so please vote more democrats in to stop the war
Comment by James Scranton — May 29, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
I think that Sheehan’s disgust is understandable. Her issue was too narrow for me, but I feel for her. I’m sorry for the pain of disillusionment, but I think that it’s necessary. I think that the relevence of the U.S. government is negative, now. I think that most people who consider change, fear it. Many fear the government. I think that there is a moral imperative, now, and it’s up to the people to exercise it. This is the time. Independence Day is July 4th. Let’s ignore the fences and put our picnics on OUR lands. Let’s meet to celebrate, then, on the lawns that surround our state capitols, and let “them” order “us” off OUR land. You didn’t forget that you own it, did you?
Comment by Nancy McIntyre — May 29, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
I realize her son dying in a war must have been difficult to say the least, however he didn’t die in vain. This war represents freedom to Iraqis as well as to Americans. Terrorism began over a decade ago (with the first world trade center bombing in 1993) and is now being fought. I support Bush and this war and our troops.
Comment by Jonathan — May 29, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
I am glad that we still have the right of free speech in America. It is sad though that people like Sheehan and others who have responded feel it is better to allow the former Iraq government to torture and kill its citizens. America has lost a lot of the morals we had in years past and the fact that we are willing to pull out of Iraq when things are not going well shows we do not have the guts to finish what we started. Americans have to pay for the war and soldiers like me see the good happening over there and instead of money we give our lives. Soldiers constantly complain that the news does not show the real story in Iraq but then again we are all “brain washed”. I think most soldiers would be ashamed of our mothers if they dishonored us the way she has her son.
Comment by Brian — May 30, 2007 @ 10:54 am
Well, republicans and democrats alike its interesting to know that while they work so “hard” over there in Congress….they have such a wonderful retirement plan and will live a life of luxury.
RICH MAN’S WAR
POOR MAN’s BLOOD
And for the land of the free one should take a good long look into the lack of privacy you have concerning your corporate jobs….urine tests, credit checks, and so on. People in so called “less free” countries would not stand for all of this mess.
We have been brainwashed to think we are free….to choose the options on the products we buy that’s all.
Hitler once said, “Thank God (for leaders) that men are stupid,”.
Comment by Brittany — May 30, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
If we pull out now we end up just like Vietnam. WE STAY AND FINISH THE JOB LIKE GOOD AMERICANS SHOULD DO “FINISH THE JOB”.something we did not do in Nam
Comment by Eddie — June 5, 2007 @ 11:35 am